Opinions that may or may not get Oppo turnt up: Part Deux

"Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney" (braddelaparker) 12/16/2013 at 12:14 • Filed to: None

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This is an abjectly hideous automobile

I'll duck and cover to hide from the onslaught of flat-bill caps.

HammerheadFistpunch > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:15

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its ugly...so?

Most Subaru's are.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:16

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Ugly?

UGLY?

HOW DARE YOU?!

It's clearly hideous. No need to be kind to it.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:18

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I used to like them... this... this... it hurts my eyes... the hood scoop is to big; the taillights look like a Kiashi

In fact, the whole side looks like one...

Subie messed up

Gamecat235 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:19

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Dunzo > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:19

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Are they TRYING to make it look more beige? May have always been ugly, but at least it was unique.

Party-vi > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:19

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Nah it just looked like a turd. Literally like some giant asshole pinched it off and *BAM* there's the front end.

Mattbob > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:20

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ehhh, yeah.

zn6 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:20

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Put a big-ass wing on it and it'll almost look like the old WRX again.

Jayhawk Jake > HammerheadFistpunch 12/16/2013 at 12:21

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I was going to say this, but really the issue is they teased a fantastic looking car then made none of it

djmanila > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:22

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how do you from this

to that

Victorious Secret > Gamecat235 12/16/2013 at 12:22

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Don't use math in the morning.

Please.

BrtStlnd > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:23

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All Subaru WRXs have been ugly.

Victorious Secret > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:24

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It'll definitely get Oppo turned up but I won't disagree, that WRX is ugly.

UGLY.

This is coming from the guy who owns a Veloster, which isn't the most handsome thing on the market either. That WRX is just sad.

Sadness everywhere.

Mercedes was CLEARLY onto something with the CLA45. For those kinds of prices, oh fuck it I'd rather spend a bit more and just get the Merc. Good grief, what an ugly car.

They gave the WRX/STI their own 'platforms' and this is all they could do?

How do you go from the concept with was exceptionally aggressive and forward thinking to this?

Why.

Just why.

Help me understand.

HammerheadFistpunch > Jayhawk Jake 12/16/2013 at 12:25

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Actually, looking at the two its 100% dead on given the things that HAVE to happen to go from production to reality. Aside from stuff like lights, wheels and flashy show stuff...its more or less 100%. The greenhouse is taller, but its a car...thats what they look like if you want to see out of them. I am totally fine with ugly if it means better visibility.

William Byrd > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:26

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It's less ugly and more boring. The concept screwed them once they decided to not have the real version look like it. Subaru can do function, we knew that. Apparently they can do form too, but only at auto shows.

nafsucof > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:26

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I think it's an ok looking car but I see why red was used in press kits. Blue looks terrible on this or rather this blue looks terrible.

Jayhawk Jake > HammerheadFistpunch 12/16/2013 at 12:27

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Yeah, but why tease a beautiful concept so close to the production model? It makes promises it can't keep, and then we hate it.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Gamecat235 12/16/2013 at 12:28

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While that's an ideology I absolutely subscribe to, there at least used to be a discernible shape there. Now it's just a frumpy jelly belly.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Victorious Secret 12/16/2013 at 12:28

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I cannot help you understand, but I can give you a "preach!"

Victorious Secret > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:30

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This is how religions/cults are made.

Who do we sacrifice?

Busslayer > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:32

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I haven't really being paying attention closely to the new Impreza. So when I saw this pic, I assumed somebody photoshopped a Subaru front end onto a Civic and we were to discuss our thoughts on that. I came to the comments only to realize that this is actually a real thing.

LeadfootYT > nafsucof 12/16/2013 at 12:33

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"This blue looks terrible?" What?

HammerheadFistpunch > Jayhawk Jake 12/16/2013 at 12:33

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That's concept cars for you: Rule #1, unless if looks like a car on a lot right now, its not going to look like it does in concept form when it does. A concept is a caricature of a new design. What you think supermodels actually look like they do in magazines?

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Victorious Secret 12/16/2013 at 12:33

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JK Trotter?

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:36

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JayhawkeJake mentioned it already, but I have to re-iterate, since it pisses me off so much that I don't have much faith left in Subaru... after being a Subaru enthusiast for years.

The WRX Concept was gorgeous. It showed that Subaru KNOWS the difference.

The production car, since the initial shots of it testing in camo-wrap, is dowdy and boring.

IT WAS A KNOWN AND INTENTIONAL BAIT AND SWITCH.

I hate being treated that way. I am a two-time Subaru owner, and enthusiast, in a climate that I really benefit from having an AWD performance car, and I am a working professional.

I should be the demographic that should be buying WRX or WRX STI.

I won't. Not after that cruel trick. They KNEW what they were doing with the concept, and they KNEW what the production model would look like.

They made a big deal about delaying the WRX/STI for three years after the new Impreza came out, and made sure that anyone watching Subaru knew that WRX and WRX STI no longer will wear any Impreza naming.

And they make it the same old boring-looking Impreza body with a wing, and a turbo underneath.

This was their chance to make an improvement, and other than direct injection, they haven't.

I was done with Ford because the Mustang stagnated, and the Probe and Mercury Cougar went nowhere... and they started cutting manual gearboxes out of most cars with any option content, as if a manual gearbox is only for economy cars.

I went to Subaru instead... now Subaru is putting CVTs in boring-looking Impreza Turbos... merely called WRX. The differences and naming is marketing theory at this point.

On to the next brand... I am not sure which one that will be... but at this point, I would rather own an old high-mileage Porsche than a low-mile late-model Subaru.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Gamecat235 12/16/2013 at 12:38

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Function over form is one thing...

but phoning in the production econo-box-derived form as if it doesn't matter, after showing a concept that shows they know what good form IS, and that it CAN FIT over the function, is an insult.

Gamecat235 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:38

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A fast and nimble frumpy jelly belly.

Jayhawk Jake > HammerheadFistpunch 12/16/2013 at 12:38

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Yeah but it's not impossible to make a car look close to the concept

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachm…

I wouldn't mind the concept being so radically different if there was a big gap between the concept and the production model. If the concept was shown 2 years ago as a 'this is a design direction we might go', sweet. But that was shown what, 6 months ago? They would have already known that the car wasn't going to look anything like it, which it doesn't.

We were promised a sleek sports sedan, instead we got a family car with some extra oomph. That's what the WRX/STi has always been, but we were led to believe it'd be different this time. I think in this case it's not so much that the WRX is ugly, it's that it isn't what we were expecting.

Victorious Secret > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:38

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I'll get my cape.

Gamecat235 > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 12/16/2013 at 12:39

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Agreed. The concept was dead sexy. But... sometimes it is just not economically feasible. The first WRX's were fugly, this is just tradition by this point in time.

HammerheadFistpunch > Jayhawk Jake 12/16/2013 at 12:42

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Cars that go strait from concept to production are...in my opinion...the worst. Huge compromises for style and they generally do well for one...maybe 2 generations and then die.

Jayhawk Jake > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:42

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As unattractive as this is, I think it would actually look good as a hatch. The front of it isn't terrible IMO, it just doesn't blend well, and the rear is bad.

Someone with photoshop skillz should graft the front of this onto the previous gen WRX hatch.

Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ > BrtStlnd 12/16/2013 at 12:44

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Agreed. I always believed the WRX should follow function over form.

dinobot666 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:44

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That's been said of every WRX since it was introduced into the US in 2002. Not really breaking any new ground here, but thanks for trying.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:46

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Now i has a sad.

I always wants to own a 4-wheel drive sedan called Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. But now it's gone.

Then i test drive the Impreza, the one before this one, and it's great. Not as great as the evo, but at least you can buy it.

And now, look what subie give us..

I can't imagine the wagon version of it.

HammerheadFistpunch > djmanila 12/16/2013 at 12:52

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like this

oldirtybootz > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:56

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I'll be the only one...I think it looks pretty good.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > dinobot666 12/16/2013 at 12:58

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This is a whole new level of ugly, because it manages to be ugly through a facade of absolute blandness. It takes talent to pull that off.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 12:59

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And you expected anything else?

Who honestly would buy a Subaru because *it's got great styling* ???

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 12/16/2013 at 13:00

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Because of how they look? Few. I didn't mind the previous-gen hatch (apparently in the minority on that), although the sedan was god awful. But this, this is a whole new level of ugliness shining through a coat of beige.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 13:02

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They put their money elsewhere, and instead let all the designers and stylists run with scissors.

dinobot666 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 13:03

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Ugly is ugly. The first drive reviews have been generally positive about the cars driving dynamics. Nobody has ever accused Subaru of working too hard on their styling cues.

Sn210 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 13:07

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I think the last gen looked better. That's right, I said it.

Chairman Kaga > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 13:09

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They killed the wagon. That's all I care about. Boo! Boo, Subaru! Boo!

webmonkees > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 13:10

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While beating the clay with ugly stick, I think the designers were counting on that lower engine placement a la BRZ. The front side bulge there may have been to accommodate that setup, and a nice 911-style sweep to the rear wheels at the same angle to match.

Then engineering got back to them, higher hood, which then they had to match the less extreme angle, rippling over the whole shape, and the glass boffins wanted a easier to build window.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Sn210 12/16/2013 at 13:15

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I don't think there's any question. Heck, I think that's the best looking Impreza of them all since the first gen.

Sn210 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 13:21

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This and the bug-eye are my favorites

Hindered23 > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 12/16/2013 at 14:09

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at least s4s aren't goin anywhere:D

nafsucof > LeadfootYT 12/16/2013 at 14:31

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is that the same color? The new one looks a bit lighter to me. I like it on the older ones, if it's the same color.

nafsucof > LeadfootYT 12/16/2013 at 14:32

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reminds me of the cornflower blue crayon from crayola i didn't like, couldn't get it dark enough.

Rico > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/16/2013 at 14:43

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Lol when I read "jelly belly" I immediately thought of this scene from South Park

Rico > Victorious Secret 12/16/2013 at 14:46

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Rico > Jayhawk Jake 12/16/2013 at 14:52

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I was doing some thinking and maybe just maybe, this concept will turn into a 2015 AWD Brz Sedan.

Rico > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 12/16/2013 at 14:55

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This is the thing I don't get, they keep referring to this thing as "All new" and "New platform" but it looks like a beefed up Impreza.

Axial > HammerheadFistpunch 12/17/2013 at 03:43

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I find it the other way around. If you can't somehow manage to marry the form you want with the function you need, then you have failed as a car designer, or any sort of designer for things that need to look good and perform.

That's why the 2015 WRX is awful. It actually doesn't match the concept at all. Sure the individual details are there and make for great lip-service to the concept, but core shape and atmosphere of the car have been lost. They are two completely different automobiles.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Gamecat235 12/21/2013 at 13:09

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Its heavier than the old one...I don't see where the function plays in. Its just ugly now.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney 12/21/2013 at 13:09

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Agreed. Its ugly, and there's no excuse. They know how to design beautiful cars, they've done it before. And the concept was very nice. Instead we got this...thing. Very disappointed.

Gamecat235 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 12/21/2013 at 13:12

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The entire history of the WRX has been function over form. All of it. These have never been pretty cars. If you don't like the styling, they might not be the cars for you.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Gamecat235 12/21/2013 at 13:52

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I disagree. I think prior WRXs looked great...again...where is the "function" over form? There is no performance statistic that this car generates that requires that shape....